Tom Bennion is an environmental lawyer. Like Shaun Hendy in the previous episode he sees reductions in air travel as vital to reducing emissions. I wanted to delve into details about the EEZ, the RMA and the Treaty of Waitangi. But this time we talked mainly about the recent amendments to the Crown Minerals Act, the result of the recent refusal to allow offshore exploration in New Zealand waters.
He’s offered to come back, and I’ve offered to prepare for that – if you want to help me prepare, but passing on questions for Tom, here’s your chance. I’ve also prepared a short animation aimed at the main talking points in articles criticising the decision, and I’m working on a long article to provide a bit more detail.
03:49 Messing with the lines of power 05:34 Having the conversation with skeptics 07:04 The Sarah Thomson case - looking back at the decision 08:04 The Sarah Thomson decision 33% chance of failure 11:12 Oil and Gas decision talking points 11:58 The Big Answer to the leakage question 12:44 MBIE Regulatory Impact statement 14:44 The currently very low carbon price 15:59 Shipping and bunker fuels 17:14 Unburnable fuels 19:34 Astro turfing 24:49 The stop fly movement 26:14 Reductions in flight 28:14 Education now out of step with the needs of the future. 30:39 Carbon offsets as predatory delay 31:44 Shane Ardern and the lost teaching moment around methane 33:14 Hopes around digital tech - measuring emissions from the farm 37:14 Old techs and highly distributed solutions: cars as batteries, rooftops as stations 40:44 The genius of necessity. 47:59 Renewable prices dropping too fast 51:44 The last harrah of flight 55:24 How does the realisation hit 57:34 Earth scientists witnessing the anthropocene 01:11:24 Climate response act 01:16:44 Groundswell of people sick of worrying - faced with a grief 01:17:44 'The future is hopeless, so let us begin' 01:24:44 Imagine if we over-corrected 01:26:14 Changing the economic model, and our world view. 01:32:44 Tamping down this volcano - the enormity of the anthropocene 01:38:21 Tom's one big wish 01:39:44 Investing in Hydrogen? 01:40:44 Alex Steffen - you have to be so alive to the thinking that will hurt you. 01:43:44 Surprising low tech alternatives 01:50:44 The community as your team of law clerks.
Next episode is with Catarina Gutierrez, cycling advocate, social enterprise builder and woman who gets shit done. We’ll talk about the urban environments we want to build and the way we want to live in them. That should be out a little quicker than this episode – it turns out that the oil and gas thing is pretty huge.